Comments on: Embracing the person http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:05:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Randy F http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1167 Randy F Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:56:27 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1167 I can easily see how Argentines and many other Spanish speaking nationalities would find Americans embrace cold. It's a societal difference. Individuality is valued here, and as a result, the love that one senses in a physical, kinesthetic way is absent most of the time. This is probably one reason tango is so popular. After being in Cuba and experiencing the love radiating off the people, N.America seems very loveless. Personally, perhaps because of health, it is hard to radiate love on a consistent basis. We are too tired to do so, because we work so much. If I was truly able to give all the love I feel for those I dance with, it might overwhelm them. I've experimented with it, before reading this, and while I can't sustain it (because of a lack of energy), my experience mirrors yours, it makes the dance a magical exerience rather than just ordinary. I can easily see how Argentines and many other Spanish speaking nationalities would find Americans embrace cold. It’s a societal difference. Individuality is valued here, and as a result, the love that one senses in a physical, kinesthetic way is absent most of the time. This is probably one reason tango is so popular. After being in Cuba and experiencing the love radiating off the people, N.America seems very loveless. Personally, perhaps because of health, it is hard to radiate love on a consistent basis. We are too tired to do so, because we work so much. If I was truly able to give all the love I feel for those I dance with, it might overwhelm them. I’ve experimented with it, before reading this, and while I can’t sustain it (because of a lack of energy), my experience mirrors yours, it makes the dance a magical exerience rather than just ordinary.

]]> By: Georgios http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1105 Georgios Tue, 20 May 2008 22:01:49 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1105 Hey Tina, Thanks for sharing this interesting piece of advice and your experience thereafter with the tango world! Speaking of Javier and transformation in a few words, you might like to read my latest post at http://www.tangogasms.com/making-leaps-and-bounds/movement-repertoire-and-starting-from-what-works/ Make sure you visit the other side of the Atlantic as well as the other side of the equator :) Georgios Hey Tina,

Thanks for sharing this interesting piece of advice and your experience thereafter with the tango world!

Speaking of Javier and transformation in a few words, you might like to read my latest post at http://www.tangogasms.com/making-leaps-and-bounds/movement-repertoire-and-starting-from-what-works/

Make sure you visit the other side of the Atlantic as well as the other side of the equator :)

Georgios

]]> By: Dubravko Kakarigi http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1086 Dubravko Kakarigi Mon, 12 May 2008 15:32:22 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1086 How nice to read your post, Tina (I was directed to your posts via Tango-L web site). Yes, mutual surrender is really required to feel all the depths of possiblities that this beautiful dance offers to people who are open to it. This last Saturday I danced with a woman whom I had never seen before and I felt something very, very special, very different. I did feel her complete giving herself to the dance and to us in the dance. It was really magical and very beautiful for me. And it almost demanded my full attention to her as well. I found out later that she had recently returned from a year spent in Buenos Aires. In spite of the fact that she was not the greatest dancer technically speaking, that one factor made dancing with her heaven. BTW, I intend to come to the Seattle festival in July -- looking forward to it. How nice to read your post, Tina (I was directed to your posts via Tango-L web site). Yes, mutual surrender is really required to feel all the depths of possiblities that this beautiful dance offers to people who are open to it.

This last Saturday I danced with a woman whom I had never seen before and I felt something very, very special, very different. I did feel her complete giving herself to the dance and to us in the dance. It was really magical and very beautiful for me. And it almost demanded my full attention to her as well.

I found out later that she had recently returned from a year spent in Buenos Aires. In spite of the fact that she was not the greatest dancer technically speaking, that one factor made dancing with her heaven.

BTW, I intend to come to the Seattle festival in July — looking forward to it.

]]> By: tango padawan http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1076 tango padawan Wed, 07 May 2008 05:25:20 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1076 A woman that opens her heart during the embrace creates the opportunity for a magical dance. if you don't, it will be just another dance... A woman that opens her heart during the embrace creates the opportunity for a magical dance. if you don’t, it will be just another dance…

]]> By: Bill http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1073 Bill Tue, 06 May 2008 05:40:06 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1073 Eso, Bill Eso,
Bill

]]> By: Irene Ho http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1063 Irene Ho Thu, 01 May 2008 02:42:37 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1063 Dear Tina, What you have described in your post is exactly what I have been experiencing since I came back from Buenos Aires this year! It is so important to create that connection by loving the person you are dancing with with your embrace. I think you can feel it if the leader you are dancing with is doing it too - the best dances I have had are with those leaders whose lives are full of love. It could be love of life, love of tango, love for a person or all of the above, but it is amazing because you feel it. I have been enjoying your blog for a while now, I love its new home and all your great graphics! Wishing you many more great dances in Seattle, Irene Dear Tina,

What you have described in your post is exactly what I have been experiencing since I came back from Buenos Aires this year! It is so important to create that connection by loving the person you are dancing with with your embrace. I think you can feel it if the leader you are dancing with is doing it too - the best dances I have had are with those leaders whose lives are full of love. It could be love of life, love of tango, love for a person or all of the above, but it is amazing because you feel it.
I have been enjoying your blog for a while now, I love its new home and all your great graphics! Wishing you many more great dances in Seattle,

Irene

]]> By: TP http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1062 TP Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:25:31 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1062 Tina, I love this post. The more I dance the better I understand what Javier has taught me. Just a few simple words, he transformed the way that I danced tango. The guy is a genius. Tina,

I love this post. The more I dance the better I understand what Javier has taught me. Just a few simple words, he transformed the way that I danced tango.

The guy is a genius.

]]> By: David Miller http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1061 David Miller Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:02:03 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1061 I remember when you wrote the original post about your reaction to Javier's advice and I put a question mark next to it in my mind. I'm pleased to hear that it bore fruit. Javier's suggestion, conveyed second hand through NYC Tango Pilgrim's blog, for the leader to invite his partner to sleep/dream together in the embrace really influenced me. I remember when you wrote the original post about your reaction to Javier’s advice and I put a question mark next to it in my mind. I’m pleased to hear that it bore fruit. Javier’s suggestion, conveyed second hand through NYC Tango Pilgrim’s blog, for the leader to invite his partner to sleep/dream together in the embrace really influenced me.

]]> By: Limerick Tango http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1059 Limerick Tango Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:43:26 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1059 Great post. I was thinking of doing some tango couple therapy sessions on this issue. Essentially start by getting the couples to give each other a big long hug and only when they are comfortable in the hug to move directly to the embrace. Great post. I was thinking of doing some tango couple therapy sessions on this issue. Essentially start by getting the couples to give each other a big long hug and only when they are comfortable in the hug to move directly to the embrace.

]]> By: Tanguera http://tinatangos.com/blog/seattle/embracing-the-person/#comment-1058 Tanguera Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:18:21 +0000 http://tinatangos.com/blog/?p=287#comment-1058 WOW. Thank you so much, Tina!!!! I had never thought about this before, in those terms, but you just made me realize that whenever I had a vision of the Ghost, a touch to Tango Bliss, was when I embraced my dance partner with real care, some sort of strange love--if it can be called that way--which was felt and reciprocated. Of course there are other factors at play--the music, the pista, etc--but without this loving embrace the true connection is not possible, and I'd dare to say that it increases the probability that other factors will also be in place for it to be real. :) This is something I really really learned today..!!!! Very important for me, thank you! WOW. Thank you so much, Tina!!!! I had never thought about this before, in those terms, but you just made me realize that whenever I had a vision of the Ghost, a touch to Tango Bliss, was when I embraced my dance partner with real care, some sort of strange love–if it can be called that way–which was felt and reciprocated. Of course there are other factors at play–the music, the pista, etc–but without this loving embrace the true connection is not possible, and I’d dare to say that it increases the probability that other factors will also be in place for it to be real. :) This is something I really really learned today..!!!! Very important for me, thank you!

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