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Roam2Rome said in June 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

Wohoo!

Well, I know you love Argentina… but it’d be great to hop on a train and have a glass of wine in Florence with you :)

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Michelle | Bleeding Espresso said in June 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

“I have this fantasy of getting myself set up in Italy, and then coming to Argentina for three months out of the year. Or maybe three months in one place, then the other, and so forth…”

Fantasies are for living :)

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Katie said in June 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

I completely hear what you’re saying, Tina. I know there are many people who are content with doing the “expat shuffle” to Uruguay every three months, but I think trying to do that long-term would be difficult. Plus, as you point out, the rules changed in a heartbeat, and who’s to say that they won’t change again, eliminating the opportunity for many to stay here on a tourist visa?

For the time being I’m here on a tourist visa, but I came to Argentina to be with my boyfriend. We have plans to get married, and then I can settle down, permanent residency and DNI in hand. Your struggle is very real to me, but you have to choose the spot which presents the best opportunities for you to have the life you’re looking to lead.

Regardless of where you end up, I hope we get a chance to meet one day in Buenos Aires!

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Nancy said in June 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Tina,

Check into the possibility that having an Italian passport makes you eligible for citizenship in Argentina. I know it used to work the other way – that any Argentine, able to show an Italian ancestor, could automatically get an Italian passport. Lot of chatter about that at the time of the big economic crisis with folks taking money out of the banks and hauling it to Italy. Of course, that might all have changed…….

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Katie said in June 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

What a place to be in..torn between two loves. I think your plan sounds grand! Argentina will keep pulling you back every year, for sure! :)

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Annika said in June 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

oh Tina… I stand by you and support you whatever you decide, and I find myself in your words. Such a beautiful post.

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Tina said in June 9th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

Thanks everybody! :)

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erin :: the olive notes said in June 9th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

I agree with everyone that it is a beautiful post. we can feel your heart in it – whichever way you choose to go I’m excited about reading about it.

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samptenwangmo said in June 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am

Tina,

Loving Buenos Aires as you do, and missing those wonderful milongas down there myself, I can certainly feel your pain. Also, Italy was the most amazing place that I ever visited, so that is a tough choice. That being said though, it is not the places that bring you happiness but happiness is found within you. Learning to be with what is, without interpreting or labeling the experience is where true happiness is found, be that Seattle, Buenos Aires or Italy. Grasping at things is what causes unhappiness. Meditation is the way I have found to that happiness regardless of exterior circumstances. That same golden warm heart energy that you get at a wonderful Buenos Aires milonga can come from the meditation experience. After all its you that is having that experience, not the external environment. Even with that, I have to admit that I would still rather be meditating in Buenos Aires after having gone to a fabulous milonga and out to media lunas and cafe con leche. Chau. Connie

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Tina said in June 10th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Connie that was such a thoughtful comment, thank you. Good advice for gypsy souls.

I’m definitely happy right now (finally! I was getting a little worried there).

I never really got the hang of meditation, alas… but I have at least gotten pretty good at finding joy in the present, even if it has taken a lot of work and isn’t always easy.

I’m a very tactile person so I tend to find fulfillment in my physical surroundings – even Seattle, especially with the nice weather we’re having ;-) . It’s also probably why I find so much happiness dancing. It’s the physical embrace that fills me with joy. Holding and hugging and music are always great for the soul.

In the end though, I’m not so much grasping at places in the search for happiness as I am looking to put down my roots somewhere so I can quit leaving. Leaving just hurts so much, ya know?

Italy is winning the race because of my work. Argentina tugs at my soul because of the people. So I’m thinking, get to Italy to take care of my work so I can earn money to go to Argentina whenever I want. And then I can meditate in both places. ;-)

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Anna said in June 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

It was awesome to hear you share your story in person last night… From what it sounded like, God really is guiding your life, and that’s a good place to be in. I’m sure Italy holds a wonderful future for you and will truly become your home :)

“While it would bring me great joy to share my life with someone and give birth to a child,” – Me too!!!
xoxo,
Anna

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Johanna said in June 11th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

Torn between two lovers, Tina. Ah, you are a nomad. A gypsy. A traveler.

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Coog said in June 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

I really really really know what you mean – and no matter how much you love the place, life as an illegal immigrant is just so tiring. But you can always travel and if you keep your eyes and ears open, at some stage you might find another opportunity in BsAs, one that allows you to stay. I hope you’ll be in Italy for a bit though so I can come over and visit you :) Good luck!

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Anait said in June 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

Tina, suffice it to say, I know EXACTLY how you feel! But there are only good things ahead for you, many new adventures and ITALY to look foward to :)

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